Comments on: Witness Never Heard Of Charles Taylor Giving Orders For His Rebels To Kill, Rape, Loot, Or Burn People’s Houses, He Says http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/ International Criminal Justice in the Making Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:22:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: noko5 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-27363 noko5 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:02:40 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-27363 Ms. Teage, Pasted below was my question to you when you made your assumed of Liberias previous economic status, and it goes;On March 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm, noko5 said: Ms. Teage, Please help some of us here. Are you saying that Liberia had a GDP of 78% when Taylor and the NPFL invaded or in the 70s Liberia s GDP was as Japans. And if the latter, what that has to do with the era Taylor and the NPFL invaded… kindly answere this . Don’t be scare… Did you answere me? NO!! Which was no problem, cause I knew where you were coming from. Now, in regards to your suggestion of critically and analitically reading your post before commenting, I personally feel that most of your posts don't need any form of critical or analitical analisys. I say so because , you never state factual facts. I don't know your level of education, but I definitely think you should stop being an impressionist. You don't have the authority to fool anyone on this site ok.. Liberia has never had any form of economic status that you can compare a world finicial hub like Japan... please.. Ms. Teage,
Pasted below was my question to you when you made your assumed of Liberias previous economic status, and it goes;On March 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm, noko5 said:
Ms. Teage,
Please help some of us here. Are you saying that Liberia had a GDP of 78% when Taylor and the NPFL invaded or in the 70s Liberia s GDP was as Japans. And if the latter, what that has to do with the era Taylor and the NPFL invaded… kindly answere this . Don’t be scare…
Did you answere me? NO!! Which was no problem, cause I knew where you were coming from. Now, in regards to your suggestion of critically and analitically reading your post before commenting, I personally feel that most of your posts don’t need any form of critical or analitical analisys. I say so because , you never state factual facts. I don’t know your level of education, but I definitely think you should stop being an impressionist. You don’t have the authority to fool anyone on this site ok.. Liberia has never had any form of economic status that you can compare a world finicial hub like Japan… please..

]]> By: Sam http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-27051 Sam Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:03:19 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-27051 Gyakabo, What has this to do with the charges? the fact remains that DCT-125 has successfully rubished claims by the prosecution that Charles Taylor "Hatched a plan in Libya" with Foday Sankoh to destabilise west africa ans especially SL in order to pillage the resources of the country. you have craftily avoided these crucial fact and others but focused on trivialities as far as this case is concerned. Addresss the issuess please Bro. Gyakabo,
What has this to do with the charges? the fact remains that DCT-125 has successfully rubished claims by the prosecution that Charles Taylor “Hatched a plan in Libya” with Foday Sankoh to destabilise west africa ans especially SL in order to pillage the resources of the country. you have craftily avoided these crucial fact and others but focused on trivialities as far as this case is concerned. Addresss the issuess please Bro.

]]> By: Sam http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-27050 Sam Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:51:14 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-27050 What is your point Wadi? you just babbled over 22 lines of words without saying noting. Mr Tyalor has consistently said he was not associated in anyway with the RUF and so could not have been in command/control of the group but I do not recall a single case where Mr Taylor said he was not in command and control of the NPFL at any point in time of its existence. You said quote:"All manner of horrors were committed by the organisation he leads, by Individuals reporting directly to him(eg Yeaten), by others influenced and directed by him(eg Bokerie) yet he claims not to have known or not to be responsible". for your information- and i think reading the transcript will help- Mr Taylor never said he was not aware that "attrocities were committed" in Liberia. infact he has given evidence corroborated by Moses Blah that tribunals were set up to try perpetrators of crimes during the war and those found guilty were punished and some even executed. so in the NPFL there was a mechanism to guide against impunity by the solders. Now how u relate that to the RUF i do not understand. You also said Bockarie was "influenced and directed" by Mr Taylor where is the evidence? the prosecutors have lead their case and still we have not seen the CONNECTION between Mr Taylor and the RUF. now its the turn of the defence to present its case which they are doing with devastating effect. you do not need a soothsayer to know that the prosecution in this case have been caged and they are in irreparable dilema. What is your point Wadi? you just babbled over 22 lines of words without saying noting. Mr Tyalor has consistently said he was not associated in anyway with the RUF and so could not have been in command/control of the group but I do not recall a single case where Mr Taylor said he was not in command and control of the NPFL at any point in time of its existence. You said quote:”All manner of horrors were committed by the organisation he leads, by Individuals reporting directly to him(eg Yeaten), by others influenced and directed by him(eg Bokerie) yet he claims not to have known or not to be responsible”. for your information- and i think reading the transcript will help- Mr Taylor never said he was not aware that “attrocities were committed” in Liberia. infact he has given evidence corroborated by Moses Blah that tribunals were set up to try perpetrators of crimes during the war and those found guilty were punished and some even executed. so in the NPFL there was a mechanism to guide against impunity by the solders. Now how u relate that to the RUF i do not understand.

You also said Bockarie was “influenced and directed” by Mr Taylor where is the evidence? the prosecutors have lead their case and still we have not seen the CONNECTION between Mr Taylor and the RUF. now its the turn of the defence to present its case which they are doing with devastating effect. you do not need a soothsayer to know that the prosecution in this case have been caged and they are in irreparable dilema.

]]> By: Gyakabo http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-27036 Gyakabo Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:07:44 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-27036 Bravo, Brother Wadi! The Doctrine of Ultimate Responsibility couldn't be stated any better!! Thanks a million. Bravo, Brother Wadi! The Doctrine of Ultimate Responsibility couldn’t be stated any better!! Thanks a million.

]]> By: Ms. Teage http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-26996 Ms. Teage Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:25:34 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-26996 Rubbish according to your standards and other Tayorist standard.....You clearly did not get the point I was trying to make about Liberia before and after so ofcourse you will try to make it seem as if I was saying Taylor and Taylor alone cause the trouble which is not what I was saying. 0but here's a tip if you want to responde to a post read critically and analytically and read the entire and try to get the entire gist of the article and then responde. I never claimed Taylor was the only actor in the civil war. I never claimed that the GDP was high as in the 70s when Doe was president. I did speak about Doe being a murder so if you would have read my previous post u would have seen that. I never spoke about Doe's part in the downfall of the ecomomy, neither did I claim that Taylor was the only actor in destroying the ecomomy, I solely spoke about Taylors supposed attempts to empower Liberians to develop Liberia. Doe did much to distroy the economy and so did Taylor and that is what I spoke of. I'm not here to promote or participate in the dissimination of false information neither am I here to fool anyone. If you feel as if I have incorrectly spoken and challenge what I've said with evidence in an intellectual manner I will most definitely stand corrected. But I will say one thing though despite our opposing views of many issues pertaining to this trail and other events, it is ok to read my comments with out presumtions, and its ok to respond to what I actually said and not what you thought I said, as I said before if you try reading analytically that will foster a better understanding of what bloggers are saying;despite whether you agree or disagree with their overall position in this trail. With that said I will stop my rant here. -Cheers Rubbish according to your standards and other Tayorist standard…..You clearly did not get the point I was trying to make about Liberia before and after so ofcourse you will try to make it seem as if I was saying Taylor and Taylor alone cause the trouble which is not what I was saying.
0but here’s a tip if you want to responde to a post read critically and analytically and read the entire and try to get the entire gist of the article and then responde.
I never claimed Taylor was the only actor in the civil war. I never claimed that the GDP was high as in the 70s when Doe was president. I did speak about Doe being a murder so if you would have read my previous post u would have seen that. I never spoke about Doe’s part in the downfall of the ecomomy, neither did I claim that Taylor was the only actor in destroying the ecomomy, I solely spoke about Taylors supposed attempts to empower Liberians to develop Liberia. Doe did much to distroy the economy and so did Taylor and that is what I spoke of. I’m not here to promote or participate in the dissimination of false information neither am I here to fool anyone.
If you feel as if I have incorrectly spoken and challenge what I’ve said with evidence in an intellectual manner I will most definitely stand corrected.
But I will say one thing though despite our opposing views of many issues pertaining to this trail and other events, it is ok to read my comments with out presumtions, and its ok to respond to what I actually said and not what you thought I said, as I said before if you try reading analytically that will foster a better understanding of what bloggers are saying;despite whether you agree or disagree with their overall position in this trail.
With that said I will stop my rant here.
-Cheers

]]> By: Ms. Teage http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-26966 Ms. Teage Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:15:06 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-26966 Tracey Absolutely. Tracey Absolutely.

]]> By: Ken http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-26957 Ken Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:49:30 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-26957 Ms. Teage, You stated, “Liberia went from being in the guiness book of world record in 78 from being the richess country on the sub-sahara part of Africa, with a GDP close to Japan to being on of the poorest countries.” Ms. Teage, where in the “Guinness book” of world record I can find that information? I am sure you did research the Guinness book before you made such a claim. Ms. Teage,
You stated, “Liberia went from being in the guiness book of world record in 78 from being the richess country on the sub-sahara part of Africa, with a GDP close to Japan to being on of the poorest countries.” Ms. Teage, where in the “Guinness book” of world record I can find that information? I am sure you did research the Guinness book before you made such a claim.

]]> By: Jose Rodriguez http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-26943 Jose Rodriguez Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:23:47 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-26943 Davenport/noko7, i am even more surprised Tracey Gurd has not told you thank you yet for this piece. However, I intentionally called you Noko7 just like the way I intentionally called $$Bnker Bnker. When you as Noko7 started posting first, you called yourself noko7. for what apparent reason, I don't know. Now that all of the evidence given thus far is in favor of Liberia beloved president, His Execellency Dr. charles G. Taylor, you and Bnker have had a name change. I am still of the impression that you are the same person who used to say or suggest that president Taylor is guilty as charged. One more thing before I leave. Since you have change your name, I have noticed that you continue to throw little jabs here and there and I hide behind your rhetoric in the form of questions. That's fine, but I see you. Look Noko7, this is not all about appearance in terms of names, but the quality of where you stand on issues as it arises especially looking at the available evidence. I think, the long awaited dialogue, that expected between the both of us has started. And folks, stay out of this please. Just how the facts massively decimated and anniliated Bnker until we have not seen his post for about two weeks now, it's probably going to happen to Noko7. Davenport/noko7,

i am even more surprised Tracey Gurd has not told you thank you yet for this piece. However, I intentionally called you Noko7 just like the way I intentionally called $$Bnker Bnker. When you as Noko7 started posting first, you called yourself noko7. for what apparent reason, I don’t know. Now that all of the evidence given thus far is in favor of Liberia beloved president, His Execellency Dr. charles G. Taylor, you and Bnker have had a name change. I am still of the impression that you are the same person who used to say or suggest that president Taylor is guilty as charged. One more thing before I leave. Since you have change your name, I have noticed that you continue to throw little jabs here and there and I hide behind your rhetoric in the form of questions. That’s fine, but I see you. Look Noko7, this is not all about appearance in terms of names, but the quality of where you stand on issues as it arises especially looking at the available evidence.

I think, the long awaited dialogue, that expected between the both of us has started. And folks, stay out of this please. Just how the facts massively decimated and anniliated Bnker until we have not seen his post for about two weeks now, it’s probably going to happen to Noko7.

]]> By: andrew jlay http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-26936 andrew jlay Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:05:11 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-26936 Teage, Good to hear that you are now getting down to reality. Good to hear that you are aware that our GDP was close to that of Japan at some point in time. Now there is vast difference between Liberia and Japan. Why is that so? The answer lies in what Taylor is trying to do unravel Liberia from the tyranny of America. Yes, the President that took Liberia so high that our GDP was acclaimed was disliked by America until they assassinated him. Yes they killed Tolbert because he wanted to be independent and non-align. So it is good that you are coming home to the revolutionaries. Welcome. Teage,

Good to hear that you are now getting down to reality. Good to hear that you are aware that our GDP was close to that of Japan at some point in time. Now there is vast difference between Liberia and Japan. Why is that so? The answer lies in what Taylor is trying to do unravel Liberia from the tyranny of America.

Yes, the President that took Liberia so high that our GDP was acclaimed was disliked by America until they assassinated him. Yes they killed Tolbert because he wanted to be independent and non-align.

So it is good that you are coming home to the revolutionaries. Welcome.

]]> By: Jocone http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2010/03/09/witness-never-heard-of-charles-taylor-giving-orders-for-his-rebels-to-kill-rape-loot-or-burn-peoples-houses-he-says/#comment-26918 Jocone Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:09:20 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4836#comment-26918 Why didn't the international community try to arrest George W. Bush when he traveling around the world? The fact of the matter is that those rules only applied to small and weak Countries. Can they the inational community arrest leaders of Israel whom Soldiers committed crimes against the people of the West Bank and Gaza? Of course not because Israel is a small but Powerful Country, that's it!! Why didn’t the international community try to arrest George W. Bush when he traveling around the world? The fact of the matter is that those rules only applied to small and weak Countries. Can they the inational community arrest leaders of Israel whom Soldiers committed crimes against the people of the West Bank and Gaza? Of course not because Israel is a small but Powerful Country, that’s it!!

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