Comments on: United Nations Panel Is At The Heart Of Case Against Taylor, He Says http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/ International Criminal Justice in the Making Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:34:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Impunity Watch » Blog Archive » Update: Trial for Charles Taylor Still in Progress http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-27197 Impunity Watch » Blog Archive » Update: Trial for Charles Taylor Still in Progress Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:38:26 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-27197 [...] – United Nations Panel is at the Heart of Case Against Taylor, he says – 26 August [...] [...] – United Nations Panel is at the Heart of Case Against Taylor, he says – 26 August [...]

]]> By: Tracey Gurd http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5440 Tracey Gurd Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:24:03 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5440 Hi Galdia -- unfortunately we cannot help you with the videolink as I do not think they are archived -- but I can suggest that the transcripts of August 25 might be of use if you want to follow the discussion of the trial in detail. The transcripts for the Taylor trial are available here: http://www.sc-sl.org/CASES/ProsecutorvsCharlesTaylor/Transcripts/tabid/160/Default.aspx. I know the one for August 25 is already posted. Best, Tracey Hi Galdia — unfortunately we cannot help you with the videolink as I do not think they are archived — but I can suggest that the transcripts of August 25 might be of use if you want to follow the discussion of the trial in detail.

The transcripts for the Taylor trial are available here: http://www.sc-sl.org/CASES/ProsecutorvsCharlesTaylor/Transcripts/tabid/160/Default.aspx.

I know the one for August 25 is already posted.

Best,
Tracey

]]> By: Galdia http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5438 Galdia Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:13:17 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5438 Hi All, Is there anyone on the forum that can help me with a video link of the 25th August prosecution of Taylor's trial. Thanks, Galdia Hi All,

Is there anyone on the forum that can help me with a video link of the 25th August prosecution of Taylor’s trial.

Thanks,

Galdia

]]> By: Liberian Dream http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5314 Liberian Dream Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:14:36 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5314 Ziggy you should understand that Liberian Civil war was fought mainly by foreign fighters. Since the begining we had the Burkinabe and the Ivorians as special forces commando and at a later stage the ATU comprises of many Sierra Leoneans. Despite the high unemployment rate many adult male Liberian never fancied joining any warring factions. Even now the new army is finding male recruits. Ziggy you should understand that Liberian Civil war was fought mainly by foreign fighters. Since the begining we had the Burkinabe and the Ivorians as special forces commando and at a later stage the ATU comprises of many Sierra Leoneans. Despite the high unemployment rate many adult male Liberian never fancied joining any warring factions. Even now the new army is finding male recruits.

]]> By: andrew jlay http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5251 andrew jlay Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:44:05 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5251 Agreed Helen, Those who doubted Taylor's defense should bolster, because it appears that the battle just only begun. After 227 witnesses, I wonder what would be left, judging from this level of thoroughness. Agreed Helen,

Those who doubted Taylor’s defense should bolster, because it appears that the battle just only begun. After 227 witnesses, I wonder what would be left, judging from this level of thoroughness.

]]> By: andrew jlay http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5250 andrew jlay Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:37:30 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5250 Bnker, Agreed, the defense team has proven their capability to handle this case given the limited time that they had to prepare. We just hope the law will be applied by majority of the judges as per the statute, innocent until proven guilty. Based on the rule 98 decision, the judges concluded that the prosecution's case had a smoking gun, as they singled out Taylor's participation in the kono attack and the infamous operation no living thing. If by now the defense has not driven a wedge of doubt through that mindset, then the defense might need a herculean dagger. Agreed they are good. And should such a trial ensue for Liberian they should stand ready for hiring. Although I seriously doubt that Liberia will follow the Sierra Leone path. Reading the special court statute, I realised that they beautifully crafted the document. the special court was given primacy and another clause stipulated that amnesty would not relieve any accused of responsibility nor bar them from trial. So if we should form a special court on Liberia, the proposed statute will be presented in Liberia for public hearing and scrutiny before being adopted. No one will craft a document in secret and drive it down our throat. Those who support and oppose will debate openly and the majority view shall prevail. Bnker,

Agreed, the defense team has proven their capability to handle this case given the limited time that they had to prepare. We just hope the law will be applied by majority of the judges as per the statute, innocent until proven guilty.

Based on the rule 98 decision, the judges concluded that the prosecution’s case had a smoking gun, as they singled out Taylor’s participation in the kono attack and the infamous operation no living thing.

If by now the defense has not driven a wedge of doubt through that mindset, then the defense might need a herculean dagger.

Agreed they are good. And should such a trial ensue for Liberian they should stand ready for hiring. Although I seriously doubt that Liberia will follow the Sierra Leone path.

Reading the special court statute, I realised that they beautifully crafted the document. the special court was given primacy and another clause stipulated that amnesty would not relieve any accused of responsibility nor bar them from trial.

So if we should form a special court on Liberia, the proposed statute will be presented in Liberia for public hearing and scrutiny before being adopted. No one will craft a document in secret and drive it down our throat. Those who support and oppose will debate openly and the majority view shall prevail.

]]> By: bnker http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5239 bnker Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:05:24 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5239 Andrew, I think technically the defense could argue that since CT is accused of gun-running and Gus was his supplier, but no evidence has linked him to supplying guns, therefore CT was not gun-running. But, I don't think this would take any root. If Gus was not the arm importer than someone was, but the bottom line is that CT supplied guns to RUF, this is the argument of the prosecution. I think if its brought forward, I firmly believe it would be rejected by the judges. Then again, I am not a lawyer and don't understand the technicalities of court proceeding; however a good lawyer as Courtney could get things done. PREDICTION AFTER THIS TRAIL: Defense lawyers will be one of the most sought lawyers for cases at the Hague. If the Sudanese leader ever get to the court, he will hire this guy! He is good...I mean really good too! Andrew,

I think technically the defense could argue that since CT is accused of gun-running and Gus was his supplier, but no evidence has linked him to supplying guns, therefore CT was not gun-running. But, I don’t think this would take any root. If Gus was not the arm importer than someone was, but the bottom line is that CT supplied guns to RUF, this is the argument of the prosecution. I think if its brought forward, I firmly believe it would be rejected by the judges. Then again, I am not a lawyer and don’t understand the technicalities of court proceeding; however a good lawyer as Courtney could get things done.

PREDICTION AFTER THIS TRAIL: Defense lawyers will be one of the most sought lawyers for cases at the Hague. If the Sudanese leader ever get to the court, he will hire this guy! He is good…I mean really good too!

]]> By: Noko4 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5214 Noko4 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:40:19 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5214 Al-Solo, I believe GOD moves in a mysterial way but it will be a travesty if that is the hidden plan. I strongly believe Liberia should have her own and let's get to FACTUALLY hear some of the mess that went on behind the smokes....bring ALL and I mean ALL the players to court and let TRUE JUSTICE be the goal. Unlike Freetown's court, Liberia will have EYE WITNESSES to convict them. Al-Solo,
I believe GOD moves in a mysterial way but it will be a travesty if that is the hidden plan.

I strongly believe Liberia should have her own and let’s get to FACTUALLY hear some of the mess that went on behind the smokes….bring ALL and I mean ALL the players to court and let TRUE JUSTICE be the goal. Unlike Freetown’s court, Liberia will have EYE WITNESSES to convict them.

]]> By: Leoroy Dennis http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5206 Leoroy Dennis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:32:07 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5206 I wonder why people like Teah Brown, Fallah, Timoty, Sumo and other hard to get this thing. Look at what the UN Expert wrote on behalf of Liberia. They are saying Liberia is been use for Drug, and Arm smugerling, money lundering and every bad thing. To you guys is that what you know liberia for? Taylor tried in the pass to save the name of the country and these same people refused him and he is still doing it. You guys just sit and write anything, I see while liberian have no respect in the sub region again or in the eyes of the international community again. These report like this one is the very cause of these thing. Did Taylor ever say there was no training base in Gbatala? No. Did your expert go to Gbalata and asked those of the people that were training there No. They were ever refused access to visit the Gbatala base No. So where did they get their report from. One of the thing you guys are not getting is please this case is not about Liberia. If it comes to Liberia I have questions for Taylor and all the war lords. Was it Fair on the part of the UN to reject Liberia subjections on people appionted as panel. As I told you guys the last time wait until liberia open a court of such then the case will be different. I wonder why people like Teah Brown, Fallah, Timoty, Sumo and other hard to get this thing. Look at what the UN Expert wrote on behalf of Liberia. They are saying Liberia is been use for Drug, and Arm smugerling, money lundering and every bad thing. To you guys is that what you know liberia for? Taylor tried in the pass to save the name of the country and these same people refused him and he is still doing it. You guys just sit and write anything, I see while liberian have no respect in the sub region again or in the eyes of the international community again. These report like this one is the very cause of these thing. Did Taylor ever say there was no training base in Gbatala? No. Did your expert go to Gbalata and asked those of the people that were training there No. They were ever refused access to visit the Gbatala base No. So where did they get their report from. One of the thing you guys are not getting is please this case is not about Liberia. If it comes to Liberia I have questions for Taylor and all the war lords. Was it Fair on the part of the UN to reject Liberia subjections on people appionted as panel. As I told you guys the last time wait until liberia open a court of such then the case will be different.

]]> By: Helen http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/26/united-nations-panel-is-at-the-heart-of-case-against-taylor-he-says/#comment-5188 Helen Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:28:06 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4327#comment-5188 I think the Defence will most likely go into more depth next week. They touched on it for now but I'm almost certain they will expand on it later. The Defence is very thorough. Yes Andrew, I listened to the decision. This just goes to show that if Mr Taylor was in a regular court of law, he would not even have had to stay this long. They would have thrown out this case for total lack of evidence. However as this case is not abotu law, we are watching to see what tricks they plan to pull. Like I keep saying, if they want to maintain any modicum of credibility, they will do the right thing and not bow to any international political pressure. I hope the judges have principles and can stand their ground despite the odds. I think the Defence will most likely go into more depth next week. They touched on it for now but I’m almost certain they will expand on it later. The Defence is very thorough.

Yes Andrew,

I listened to the decision. This just goes to show that if Mr Taylor was in a regular court of law, he would not even have had to stay this long. They would have thrown out this case for total lack of evidence. However as this case is not abotu law, we are watching to see what tricks they plan to pull.

Like I keep saying, if they want to maintain any modicum of credibility, they will do the right thing and not bow to any international political pressure. I hope the judges have principles and can stand their ground despite the odds.

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