Comments on: RUF Salute Report Made No Mention Of Help Received From Charles Taylor http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/ International Criminal Justice in the Making Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:34:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Impunity Watch » Blog Archive » Update: Taylor Trial Continues as Defense Continues to Present its Case http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-27196 Impunity Watch » Blog Archive » Update: Taylor Trial Continues as Defense Continues to Present its Case Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:27:20 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-27196 [...] more information, please see: CharlesTaylorTrial.org – RUF Salute Report Made no Mention of Help Received From Charles Taylor – 13 August [...] [...] more information, please see: CharlesTaylorTrial.org – RUF Salute Report Made no Mention of Help Received From Charles Taylor – 13 August [...]

]]> By: Noko4 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4338 Noko4 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:12:54 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4338 Tim, Whatelse there to heard??? The prosecutors have RESTED on HEARSAY.....all they can now do is pluck holes in Mr. Taylor's testimony. But they have to some back with FACTUAL FACTS and not some.....someone told John, John told Sue, Sue told Mary and Mary said to this court.....I won't work. The defense is doing what they should have done.....present DOCUMENTS. Tim,
Whatelse there to heard??? The prosecutors have RESTED on HEARSAY…..all they can now do is pluck holes in Mr. Taylor’s testimony. But they have to some back with FACTUAL FACTS and not some…..someone told John, John told Sue, Sue told Mary and Mary said to this court…..I won’t work.

The defense is doing what they should have done…..present DOCUMENTS.

]]> By: Noko4 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4337 Noko4 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:06:31 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4337 Tim, Please okay.....where did I say the Reoprt was "RUBBISH"??? You did your best to DOWN PLAY the words(Salute Report) of Mr. Bockarie....like it was lacking some ingredients and all I was doing was letting you know that some KEY PLAYERS were left out of the SL's TRC Report also. Was Mr. Taylor called in for interview??? Tim,
Please okay…..where did I say the Reoprt was “RUBBISH”??? You did your best to DOWN PLAY the words(Salute Report) of Mr. Bockarie….like it was lacking some ingredients and all I was doing was letting you know that some KEY PLAYERS were left out of the SL’s TRC Report also.

Was Mr. Taylor called in for interview???

]]> By: Timothy http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4291 Timothy Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:32:02 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4291 Both counsels have painted two very different narratives - I imagine the truth overlaps both narratives. It will be very interesting to see how the judges will rule. Both counsels have painted two very different narratives – I imagine the truth overlaps both narratives. It will be very interesting to see how the judges will rule.

]]> By: andrew Jlay http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4249 andrew Jlay Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:07:29 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4249 Musa, I do not believe that you expect Taylor to provide clarification on a report that he did not author not did he know anything about its authorring. It was Bockarie who narrated in the report that RUF has been purchasing arms from ULIMO. So I really do not believe you can get help here if you have serious doubt that to accept the information as it is until cross-examination. Second point you seem to mix ULIMO and LURD. By the time of the burning of the arms, ULIMO and other factions had been demobilised and ECOMOG had carried search and seizure operations to recover hidden or unreported arms. But LURD was not in the picture at this time. If you followed the Liberian crises, after the election, it LURD that launch it attacks from GUINEA. Following Taylor's trial, we will launch a special court on Liberia in order to try Lasana Conteh and other who destroyed the peace and first free and fair elections. Musa,

I do not believe that you expect Taylor to provide clarification on a report that he did not author not did he know anything about its authorring. It was Bockarie who narrated in the report that RUF has been purchasing arms from ULIMO. So I really do not believe you can get help here if you have serious doubt that to accept the information as it is until cross-examination.

Second point you seem to mix ULIMO and LURD. By the time of the burning of the arms, ULIMO and other factions had been demobilised and ECOMOG had carried search and seizure operations to recover hidden or unreported arms.

But LURD was not in the picture at this time. If you followed the Liberian crises, after the election, it LURD that launch it attacks from GUINEA.

Following Taylor’s trial, we will launch a special court on Liberia in order to try Lasana Conteh and other who destroyed the peace and first free and fair elections.

]]> By: andrew Jlay http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4246 andrew Jlay Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:46:10 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4246 Timothy, Let us agree that the prosecution problem is linkage. There is Taylor the accused and therere is alleged crime scene and victims. The challenge is to connent the two beyond reasonable doubts. No all doubts but reasonable doubts, doubts that an ordinary person is inclined to consider. As it stands now can we affirm that the prosecution case passed that test? Timothy,

Let us agree that the prosecution problem is linkage. There is Taylor the accused and therere is alleged crime scene and victims. The challenge is to connent the two beyond reasonable doubts. No all doubts but reasonable doubts, doubts that an ordinary person is inclined to consider.

As it stands now can we affirm that the prosecution case passed that test?

]]> By: Aki http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4226 Aki Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:59:17 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4226 Timothy, You are right that we must listen to all evidence before drawing conclusions. I must admit I was somewhat surprised that the Judges did not throw out some of the charges upon the Prosecution resting their case. This being said I stil believe the Defense has presented a much stronger case than the prosecution. Unless Mr. Taylor severely falters on cross examination or his other witnesses are discredited he is in the driver's seat. Cheers! Timothy,
You are right that we must listen to all evidence before drawing conclusions. I must admit I was somewhat surprised that the Judges did not throw out some of the charges upon the Prosecution resting their case. This being said I stil believe the Defense has presented a much stronger case than the prosecution. Unless Mr. Taylor severely falters on cross examination or his other witnesses are discredited he is in the driver’s seat.

Cheers!

]]> By: Aki http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4225 Aki Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:52:59 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4225 Musa, You bring up some point that the Defense will have to clarify. However the arms you mention about have been explained by Mr. Taylor already. He supplied those limited amount of arms but mostly ammunition as he said sometime between 1991 thru 1992. This period is outside of the indictment. Musa,

You bring up some point that the Defense will have to clarify. However the arms you mention about have been explained by Mr. Taylor already. He supplied those limited amount of arms but mostly ammunition as he said sometime between 1991 thru 1992. This period is outside of the indictment.

]]> By: noko5 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4223 noko5 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:46:48 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4223 Musa, hope your weekend was great; one thing I know is that even if the facts were written in BLUE AND PINK, which would be unusual, but just to make you happy,my man you will still not agree. those points that are neccessarily evident have been presented in black and white and I think any sensible person would accept written evidence as compare to HEAR SAY !!! OR THEY>>> . The facts have been laid on the table by mr. taylor. there is no need for trial anymore. It's a wate of time and resources that the world could benefit from in other ways. LET MTHEM use the trial funds to help the goverment of sierraleon learn wealth management. CUZ trus me, that goverment is very CORRUPT>>> Musa, hope your weekend was great; one thing I know is that even if the facts were written in BLUE AND PINK, which would be unusual, but just to make you happy,my man you will still not agree. those points that are neccessarily evident have been presented in black and white and I think any sensible person would accept written evidence as compare to HEAR SAY !!! OR THEY>>> . The facts have been laid on the table by mr. taylor. there is no need for trial anymore. It’s a wate of time and resources that the world could benefit from in other ways. LET MTHEM use the trial funds to help the goverment of sierraleon learn wealth management. CUZ trus me, that goverment is very CORRUPT>>>

]]> By: Musa http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/2009/08/13/ruf-salute-report-made-no-mention-of-help-received-from-charles-taylor/#comment-4219 Musa Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:08:19 +0000 http://www.charlestaylortrial.org/?p=4267#comment-4219 Aki, Let me dissect a little bit on what I see as a contradiction in Mr. Taylor testimony. 1. Mr. Taylor informed SC-SL that the then NPFL formed alliance with RUF to combat a common enemy which happened to be ULIMO back in the years 1991 - 1992. I wonder when this common enemy of NPFL and RUF transformed into an arm supplier of the RUF. The Court and audience will need a little detail on this transformation. 2. If you read further down, you will see that Mr. Taylor says the Western Powers encouraged him to disarm ALL FIGHTING FORCES in Liberia, burning arms and ammunition and thereby rendering him powerless for LURD to launch an attack against him. ULIMO was certainly part and parcel of the disarmament and disbandment exercises of warring factions leading to the general and presidential elections in 1997 during which Mr. Taylor emerged victorious. A disbanded organization could not have supplied arms and ammunition to RUF. Think about this, Aki. Aki,

Let me dissect a little bit on what I see as a contradiction in Mr. Taylor testimony.

1. Mr. Taylor informed SC-SL that the then NPFL formed alliance with RUF to combat a common enemy which happened to be ULIMO back in the years 1991 – 1992. I wonder when this common enemy of NPFL and RUF transformed into an arm supplier of the RUF. The Court and audience will need a little detail on this transformation.

2. If you read further down, you will see that Mr. Taylor says the Western Powers encouraged him to disarm ALL FIGHTING FORCES in Liberia, burning arms and ammunition and thereby rendering him powerless for LURD to launch an attack against him. ULIMO was certainly part and parcel of the disarmament and disbandment exercises of warring factions leading to the general and presidential elections in 1997 during which Mr. Taylor emerged victorious. A disbanded organization could not have supplied arms and ammunition to RUF. Think about this, Aki.

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